[21:02] ok, if everyone will be quiet for a minute, we are gonna try to make this quick and efficient [21:02] maggijo...hhahaha [21:02] Jimmy2K^, they're over near the carpet samples [21:02] I second maggijo's motion for order [21:02] *** cable[afk] is now known as cableguy [21:02] LOL [21:03] thanks Kim` [21:03] motion on the table [21:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cableguy [21:03] I'd like to order an MLT. [21:03] ORDER..ORDER... PEE IN YOUR CUP [21:03] * Pattie^ waves cold chicken under safy's nose [21:03] the reason for tonight's meeting is to let everyone know that we are discussing setting up a weboste for the channel [21:03] I make a motion that we adjurn this to a more decent hour [21:03] wb cableguy!! [21:03] what is a weboste? [21:03] Go ahead and do a website, thank you [21:03] Pattie^, chicken !!!!!!! whohoo [21:03] watch it safyst that isn't chicken [21:03] JUST made it i see... [21:04] but it TASTE like chicken [21:04] * Jimmy2K^ will send CASH [21:04] you guys....sit down!!!! [21:04] ORDER ORDER! [21:04] M53CT, LOL , that's my problem everything taste like chicken..heheh [21:04] oh look, it's a meeting. [21:04] lol [21:04] Meeting adjourned [21:04] ribbit, ribbit [21:04] [21:04] tacoboy very nice... a sense of community [21:04] be civil gang [21:04] we hope to register a domain name and secure webhost to be dedicated to the channel and it will offer plenty of room for a huge website should that be possible. We need people to step forward to make this happen. We need contributions to get this started ... something around $100. Until that happens, there is not much more we can do [21:04] oink oink [21:05] Jimmy, a civil gang ? lolol [21:05] Sorry I cant give any money [21:05] awwwright!!!! [21:05] ok....lets go...my wife wants to fool around...i told her to wait [21:05] Get a fee website, then get a domain name through da.ru [21:05] safy !!!!!!!!!!!! [21:05] lol M53CT [21:05] I'll send 5 bucks [21:05] hehehe [21:05] M53CT lol [21:05] taco, i doubt this channel's website will or needs to be, "huge" [21:05] 5 bucks here.. [21:05] Kim`: I should be so lucky! [21:05] hehehe [21:05] i, personally, shy away from the free webhosts because of the banners and ads and the limitations they impose [21:05] heck yah - its my favorite room on IRC [21:06] You can get a Java interface for a 50 dollar license [21:06] i think a geocities account would do just fine, for that matter, i'd be willing to host it on my home machines. [21:06] tacoboy, good call [21:06] do it right [21:06] Geocities has those annoying ads [21:06] I'll do $5 [21:06] thats 15 bucks... [21:06] $5 here [21:06] do i hear 20 [21:06] what was the question/s [21:06] do it with all the class we came from and lets do it right [21:06] you take paypal? [21:06] OKAY, Tacoboy has suggested a fee site that would give us 1) no banners and advertising, 2) email for us 3) the ability for us to have multiple depth pages for photos, etc 4) register our own domain name. [21:06] I hate hacks [21:06] how does paypal work? [21:06] for the cost of a geocities account, you can have a REAL webhost, with pop3 email server and DNS control and the whole works, Geocities has changed their rules as of last month [21:06] the webpage should have casino gambling on it. [21:06] i'll host free on my home machine, then all you need is 8.95 to register a domian. [21:07] cjb.net is a free possibility [21:07] I'll be willing to chip 10$USD [21:07] credit card kim [21:07] I will contribute $5 .. tell me where to send it SuzzieQ [21:07] Geocities is constantly changing its rules [21:07] Go for what Abolish is offering [21:07] M53CT ah.. thats a good idea [21:07] Suzzie, whatever you need, let me know [21:07] Why not get our own domain name ? [21:07] be back later bye [21:07] we each get an email account like nick@news_garden.com or something thats cool [21:07] thats what were talking about safyst.... [21:07] newsgarden.com [21:07] Pattie^...$5 would be great! [21:07] apathy.org [21:07] cableguy, on geocitiesthey will host domain names ? [21:07] #news_garden.org [21:07] Abolish - what is your machine's service record... what is the uptime per year, and what happens if it goes down? Is this your machine at home???? [21:07] Why not get something like www.newsgarden.da.ru? [21:08] snaily...I hate that underscore, too :-) [21:08] newsgarden not news_garden [21:08] yes ... nick@newsgarden.net will be an advantage of the pay host [21:08] Admiral - WHO would remember that???? [21:08] heck I can easilly aford $5 - I waste that on electricity to chat here [21:08] true safyst..but then you get ad banners an stuff you DONT want [21:08] cableguy, scrub the ad banners. [21:08] plague, i have a web page on one of my home machines. it's up almost all the time. i don't have stats. [21:08] Admiral-Macleod The da.ru put a banner at the bottom of your page. see www.agitprop.da.ru [21:08] Abolish - what is your bandwidth? [21:09] Agit, I know I got one myself [21:09] * Jimmy2K^ cracks another $2 beer :-) [21:09] so what we need tonight, is to give out an address where people can mail their contributions, and we need people to volunteer to make contributions and to volunteer time and effort in settnig up and maintaining the site [21:09] plague, my bandwidth runs about 168k [21:09] jamespierce.da.ru [21:09] Suzzie, I'll PM you my email [21:09] Abolish -0 if your machine goes down, what is your rate of getting it back up. If you go on vacation, who maintains it? [21:09] what's the frequency kevin [21:09] Mail contributions to me [21:09] can we go to a place that doesn't have net splits. [21:09] who will create it? [21:09] Kenneth [21:09] *** BNPBLHT was kicked by PlagueRat (PlagueRat) [21:09] plague, i've never gone on vacation. [21:09] oh yeah [21:09] nice shot rat [21:09] hehehehe [21:09] kenneth [21:09] Hey maybe well lose letter dude [21:09] I think the OPS need to do this and I pledge my support [21:09] Abolish - yeah, but things change ya know... :) [21:09] ok...pm me and I'll give you my address so you can send me the contributions [21:10] I have a chat room on the Dreamwave network, it is a small friendly network and much more stable than dalnet [21:10] heck I'd send more then $5 and you know that [21:10] WAIT on those contributions guts... [21:10] I will then pay the bill by credit card [21:10] SuzzieQ why don't we use paypal rather than you giving your home address to everyone [21:10] We need to know how much we need to help establish how much we need to ask for. [21:10] I'd send money too [21:10] Kim`...I don't know about that...it's ok with me..either way [21:10] dont confuse the website with an actual IRC server ... we are not talking about setting up our own server [21:10] Kim...the person receiving PayPal payments gets nicked a service fee, correct? [21:10] TY for calling us to a meeting though - it was a great idea then - its better one now [21:10] safy, send money to...........lol [21:11] PixyStyxx I don't know... I just heard of it today [21:11] yes pix [21:11] Pattie^, anything you want :) [21:11] screw paypal ... drop a few $$$ in an envelope, or a check, and mail it to the person accepting the contributions [21:11] Kim...When I've collected funds via PayPal, I've had to pay a fee on each transaction [21:11] safy, I'll trade you my first born for your house ? [21:11] Paypal has a few problems... they want a LOT of information you don't want to give them, such as your savings account numbers, etc... then, they keep hounding you forever. [21:11] a fee screw that [21:11] do we need a treasurer PlagueRat? [21:11] you could sell newsgarden.com shares on ebay [21:11] LOL [21:11] back [21:11] Pattie^, you have kids.... [21:11] LOL M53CT` [21:11] [21:12] lol 53 [21:12] Hang on, you guys are getting the cart ahead of the horse... [21:12] Hang on, you guys are getting the cart ahead of the horse... [21:12] Hang on, you guys are getting the cart ahead of the horse... [21:12] we are talking about a one time contribution...then after one year, we will need to do it again.no need for paypal account [21:12] I say we sell Jimmy...would get him outta Tennesee or whatever it is :-) [21:12] actually its a hell of an idea M53CT :-) [21:12] what's the big deal...send me $5 and be done with it [21:12] puggg^ wb [21:12] safy, not at home, but I'll still make a deal with ya -- rofl [21:12] PixyStyxx - say what? [21:12] safyst.. Thank ye.. :) [21:12] hello puggg^ [21:12] suzzie has agreed to handle the funds [21:12] I swear...I'll report to you when I get it :)) [21:12] Howdy snaily^ :)) [21:12] Jimmy...if we sell you on eBay, your problems are solved...you'll go live with your new owner :-) [21:12] I can solve this problem...I'll give you a PO box for you to send monies to. You can trust me....heeeeeheee [21:12] Pattie^, ok..you sound like a fair trader..but nix the 1st born :) [21:12] SuzzieQ is a truted person and I will swear to that [21:13] Buenos Dias, PixyStyxx :)) [21:13] Okay, we have an offer from Abolish. He seems to be here a lot, and his account seldom disappears. It seems robust enough. HOWEVER, it's not a pay-fer system, and sometimes you get what you pay for... that means we don't get technicians who are paid to keep it running. ON the other hand, technicians often don't know what they are doing anyway. [21:13] PixyStyxx - LOL [21:13] damn...i don't trust anyone here with 5 bucks hehehee [21:13] SO, the question right now is... [21:13] Hiya puggg :-) [21:13] <__-Standards-__> cya all tomorrow im off [21:13] QUESTION - do we accetp Abolish's offer??? [21:13] ok safy, maybe the cat ? [21:13] QUESTION - do we accetp Abolish's offer??? [21:13] I accept abolish's offer [21:13] QUESTION - do we accetp Abolish's offer??? [21:13] Pattie^, only like big and fluffy cats :) [21:13] Gawlly... lookit all them ops! :) [21:13] sure...why not [21:13] Abolish do you really want to do this? [21:13] I don't see any reason why not. [21:13] PlagueRat - my only question is WHEN the account is set u then we solicit donations in CASH, CHECK or MONEY ORDER? [21:13] trybe...hahaha [21:13] oops, I missed Abolish's offer ? [21:14] PlagueRat I say we accept. IF it does not hold, wee can always go back. [21:14] Jimmy - hang on. [21:14] pattie...free sex [21:14] lolol M53 [21:14] I think we should "start small"...if interest remains high and we want to go with a paid service, can do at a later date. [21:14] sex? [21:14] hehehe [21:14] what are we talking about...accept what offer? [21:14] Abolish has established a reputation here...I say take his offer.... [21:14] no sex on the website....sorry [21:14] Abolish has offereed to host. Abolish, does that include POP3 mail ???? [21:14] sure.. why not try out Abolish_Death-and-Taxes's server [21:14] only love :) [21:14] trybe, don't ask :((((( [21:14] What? [21:14] Put it on Abolish's server then if that doesnt work out move it [21:14] i do not think this needs to be running on a machine in someone's home, if we cannot afford $7.77 per month for a real, secure host, then we dont deserve to have a site [21:14] trybe,i just offered to put the channel page on one of my home machines. [21:15] sorry, Pattie. I just get so tired of being out of the loop. Hell, I was born out of the loop..lol [21:15] ohh, abolish...generous offer [21:15] You can have a website on one server and an irc server someplace else. [21:15] trybe, you aren't alone [21:15] the host will hold the page on the net correct? [21:15] It is my experience that it is very hard to keep a site running on donations [21:15] it doesn't matter to me... I don't care either way.. I can donate a few bucks or not.... [21:15] Abolish...some are thinking about a LARGE site...constant updates of fresh material, etc. [21:15] Abolish, does that include POP3 mail ???? [21:15] Abolish, does that include POP3 mail ???? [21:15] that is a generous offer, but it just opens abolish up to attacks and hackers [21:15] I'll be for Abolish_Death-and-Taxes offer...but not sure I understand how it wil work [21:15] how ever everyone else wants to do it is fine with me [21:15] I am opposed to a half hack website - on my server - I feel its best served on a server with our domain name [21:15] It usually comes down to one or a few peopel paying for it [21:15] abolish...are you old?...in good health?...what if you die? [21:15] plague, hell no. [21:15] heck I know you will see that too [21:16] tacoboy; that's true. It';s generous...but I dunno about intelligent. i wouldn't do it personally [21:16] I do the hinternet for a living - do this right guys [21:16] Abolish_Death-and-Taxes, how about jpg's [21:16] once the alpha nicks learn of abolishes addy, it is all over for abolish until he gets new ip [21:16] get a URL and a webserver to host it on a T3 [21:16] OKAY guys... if we go to the sort of site tacoboy is talking about, then we can get email through it... that means you won't have to give your real email account to people hre, but you can be @newsgarden.net [21:16] Jimmy, yeppers [21:16] tacoboy may have a point [21:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jed^ [21:17] I already have too many email addresses [21:17] PlagueRat - zactly [21:17] PlagueRat...net or org? [21:17] Jimmy2K^, t3... [21:17] jed ~~ [21:17] Will everyone have a chance to get an e-mail address? Like admiralmacleod@newsgarde.whatever [21:17] I dunno what the deal is with hesitancy to give out email addy.. [21:17] t3 is only 10 mips [21:17] Hmmm... [21:17] Suzzie thats the next question... [21:17] Abolish_Death-and-Taxes thats true.. you don't want the alphabot nicks on your machine [21:17] Jed^ wb [21:17] I kinda think its a very good idea [21:17] Taco - what about Admirals question???? [21:17] Plague...that's a plus...and also, there are forum capabilities. That enables chatters to dictate threads/debates...keeps content fresh and relieves a site admin. from having to constantly update...forum is where the "action" is. [21:17] trybe, email servers areresource hogs not to mention bandwidth [21:17] as for the domain name, we have to take what is available ... www.newsgarden.org .... net and com are already taken [21:17] have to run...let me know [21:17] I think we came to this channel from class and we are a classy channel [21:18] Pixy - true... even voy.com has become active. [21:18] newsgarden.org sounds good [21:18] are we abandoning this server? [21:18] why do a half assed job? thats not how I do stuff [21:18] spongebob would SURELY get the site [21:18] trybe, to chat? no [21:18] Plague...the format offered by powweb is far superior to Voy [21:18] <--does it halfassed a lot [21:18] the account comes with 150 email accounts [21:18] Jimmy2K^ :) [21:18] trybe - this is a website. if you don't want to see any difference, you don't ahve to do so. This is "value added" [21:18] .net usually implies that you are a provider [21:18] trybe - thats how I do dishes.. [21:18] Plague...it's more similar to the format on the Michael Moore site [21:18] errrr...100 email accounts [21:18] PixyStyxx Good site, that - [21:19] ok I'm late...what did I miss? [21:19] PlagueRat: I misunderstood. I told you I was out of the loop..lol [21:19] woohooo, what a value........what a deal :))))) [21:19] lol pugg [21:19] We should register newsgarden.org immediately before someone else gets it [21:19] taco...that will present a problem down the line [21:19] Howdy dixiegal^ :) [21:19] puggg^ HEY !!! [21:19] heck its only $100 guys - lets do it right and pay to play - we are not poor broke hillbillys [21:19] Okay... if we go with the site Tacoboy has found, we get 100 emails, a deep webpage, the opportunity for a javaclient, a BBS, and such. Sounds good to me.... [21:19] as for the discussion board, that is easy to add and all the code already exists to be added if we choose to do that [21:19] i am [21:19] Jimmy2K^ How do we get the money to them? [21:19] yes we need a message board too [21:20] PlagueRat Does sound good. [21:20] ooooo a BBS! games!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:20] if we want a java chat client based on the webiste, then we need $50 more to register the java client [21:20] How much does it cost again? [21:20] I recommend we go with Tacoboy's recommendation... [21:20] Kim` :))' [21:20] Puggq - they build it we send it - I am using a money order myself [21:20] how much does it all cost? [21:20] hi Could_Be_Me [21:20] snaily - $100/year. Lets wait before discussing funding. [21:20] Do you get an IRC server too ? [21:20] 100 bucks thats a lot [21:20] Jimmy2K^ Give me an address to send to - I'm game... [21:20] OMG!!! its Could_Be_Me !!! [21:20] First order of business..do we all agree we want a website and are willing to contribute monies? [21:20] snaily...that's total [21:20] agree [21:20] $100/year divided by 20 people / 365 days is how cheap? [21:21] snaily - we have dozens of regular chatters... [21:21] Could_Be_Me hi hi [21:21] <--in [21:21] sure [21:21] yes [21:21] we are not talking about an irc server, we will still be here on dalnet [21:21] maggie - I agree [21:21] I recommend that we go with PlagueRat's recommendation of tacoboy's recommendation. [21:21] maggiejo, yes [21:21] I am maggijo [21:21] * Sardaukar dissagrees [21:21] fact is most people wont put in any money [21:21] snaily - lets nto talk money yet. [21:21] snaily - lets nto talk money yet. [21:21] snaily - lets nto talk money yet. [21:21] Sardaukar you will be too busy jetskiing :-) [21:21] I'm for it.. [21:21] not true - most will pay for an email adresss at this home [21:21] * cableguy recomends you all take skulls recomendation [21:21] or not [21:21] 22:21: maggijo: First order of business..do we all agree we want a website and are willing to contribute monies? [21:21] and its a matter of pride [21:21] I think we better discuss money before getting plans set... [21:21] I recommend that we go with Skullhunter's recommendation of PlagueRat's recommendation of tacoboy's recommendation. [21:21] * PixyStyxx is in [21:21] Do we want the website, and if so, do we go with Taco's suggestion? [21:21] Do we want the website, and if so, do we go with Taco's suggestion? [21:21] ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY [21:22] I have only 4 names as official contributors @ $5 ea [21:22] Aye [21:22] I go with Skullhunter's recomendation.. [21:22] my dentist recommends colgate [21:22] you have 20 dollars [21:22] Suzzie...count me in [21:22] lol [21:22] Suzzie - wait... [21:22] snaily^...don't you pay for internet access?? [21:22] Go with Sanity/Taco's recomendation [21:22] I agree ..yes [21:22] $100 a year is cheap for a professional look to a classy crew on IRC [21:22] suzzie yes i pay [21:22] SuzzieQ I'll send some money honey... [21:22] wait...now we have to be classy??? [21:22] lol.... [21:22] safyst, four out of five dentists do recommend colgate. The fifth recommends fudge. [21:22] not ALL of us trybe [21:22] 5 out of 7 dentist recommend triden [21:22] we are classy trybe [21:22] dixiegal^...ok...$5? :))))) [21:22] geez, that sheds a new light on things.. [21:22] trybe, we're out of the loop again ? lol [21:22] I'm heading to grad school and I am going to be dead broke soon [21:23] Jimmy2K^ Its less than half what I pay for my dialup service.. [21:23] lol, patti [21:23] heck I won't miss $20 [21:23] Have cut all donations out of my spending [21:23] snaily^ then don't contribute..... thats fine...... [21:23] its on a volunteer basis I think [21:23] snaily - then donate NOTHING and don't make an issue out of it... [21:23] can anyone reommend a good motel [21:23] Remember this web site can be seen by the WORLD we need class..we have got class..thanks to PixyStyxx [21:23] nobody would be treated worse for NOT paying [21:23] safy, No Tell Motel [21:23] safyst - Yeah - the Red Haven.. just down the road from from here. :) [21:23] I'm just pointing out that most people wont give money for various reasons so expect that [21:23] Pattie: you read my mind [21:23] Pattie^, LOL...OK [21:23] but PAYING would be the way to see it happen [21:23] OKAY, seeing several agreements, and no strong objections, we go with Taco's server suggestion. [21:23] NOW... [21:23] can't or don't want to pay...don't :) [21:24] Seconded [21:24] puggg^, ty :) [21:24] thirded ! [21:24] Fourthed [21:24] hi Tirion [21:24] Tirion hi hi [21:24] hello Tirion [21:24] fifthed [21:24] Tirion !!!!! [21:24] We will need about $100/year for the site and name registration, and maybe $50 for a javaclient. [21:24] heya Tirion [21:24] fifth...or bacardi's [21:24] We will need about $100/year for the site and name registration, and maybe $50 for a javaclient. [21:24] of [21:24] Tirion ! ! ! [21:24] Pattie^, OK :) [21:24] agt $150 how many will give what? [21:24] OK PlagueRat [21:24] can we save the comedy for after the meeting? [21:24] safy ? [21:24] * Jimmy2K^ pledges $20 [21:25] That means that we need more than $5 from 4 people. We can probably get some money from bucksnort, but lets face it guys, we can give more than $5. There are many of us who can give $15, or $20... [21:25] Pattie^, no tell motel.... sounds OK to me...heheh [21:25] oops...didn't know this was an actual meeting. Sorry [21:25] * PlagueRat will give $15 [21:25] maggijo pledges $5 [21:25] woohoo jimmy... [21:25] I'll see if I can contribute some, but I can't garantee [21:25] I donate $10 [21:25] * Moro^ will do $15 [21:25] maggie - you pledge $10... COME ON... cough it up. [21:25] ill go 20 [21:25] c'mon match me :-) [21:25] * safyst 15.50 [21:25] oh safy, I thought you were voting on a donation -- heh heh [21:25] PlagueRat: I'll go 10 [21:25] I'm down for $5, more when I get a better job :) [21:25] YEAY CABLE!!!!!! [21:25] why should bucsnort have to pay for it.... thats not a good idea imo [21:25] * dixiegal^ can do 15-20 [21:25] i will do $10 and volunteer my time [21:25] cough cough [21:25] Maybe I can just pledge my time to help with the website [21:25] * AgitProp pledges 15$USD [21:25] * Pattie^ can do $20 [21:26] Pattie^, that too ! [21:26]